BLACKS ARE LIKELY TO BELIEVE HER CLAIMS WHILE WHITES ARE NOT!Before you answer the question or ponder the subject view this video report from FOX 26 news at 9 pm Friday night and then come back and talk about it:
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2119661&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.1.1
Okay, now that you've watched the report here's what I've noticed since the story aired. I have received several calls from friends who have had something to say about the story. Either they believes Ms. House without question or some feel she is not telling the truth. But here's what I've noticed - that with every call I've received all African Americans were likely to be believe she was the victim of retaliation by HPD while all the whites believe she is lying. Now please explain to me what's that about? Why do whites distrust her while blacks are more likely to believe her? Now, slowly proceed to the comments section and give me your feelings on the issue. And by the way, the less time you spend attacking me for the story the more time we'll have to discuss the issue!
25 comments:
I am not black, and I believe her version of the incidents, as I have known Ms. House for over a decade, and in each encounter I have had, she has endeavored to always be truthful.
Once the Chief gets back to town, he needs to look into this affair.
#1) If there was "retaliation" it would be easy enough to find out.
* The IAD complaint will be time stamped.
*the officers warrant filing will be on computer and will be time stamped as well.
#2) If it is found out that the warrant was filed/being files BEFORE the complaint was files with IAD, will you/House publically state so? I doubt it.
#3) WHy do you "reporters" always seek out the most biased, radical, outrageous of loudmouths to give a statement about a particular incident - ie the clowns from the Nation of islam?
It appears this could be retaliation, however it also appears the officers were ready to pull her over prior too. They may have wanted her brought in for something and this was their opportunity. She mentioned the guy on the phone was warning her of the jump out boys. She was in her car driving andd some starnger as she claims was warning her....Naah the whole story is about something else. We all know when the police wants to question you about bigger issues they use what ever opportunity they can. I don't know this lady or anything about her, bit honey, there are holes in this story. Hummm could this be about shifting the focus?
I am white, and I think she is telling the truth. The officers should have arrested her on the spot if they were going to, and not after she filed a complaint.
House has an interesting History. People remember her for other issues, and maybe that's why some (whites especially) don't beleive her.
But Blacks are also usually, more than likely, willing to believe claimes of police abuse and retaliation. We know it happens everyday, to our neighbors, friends, coworkers and family members.
Whites never believe it until it happens to one of them. the "so called good folk" from the other side of town.
I'm not going to rush to judgment. But based on what I know about Houston police and Ms. House, I am at this time willing to think anything is possible, and either side could be telling the truth.
Most blacks will take the side of a black person, regardless of the facts, simply b/c they are black. This goes for other races as well. Example: several black co-workers erupted in cheers when O.J. was found not guilty. Whether or not he was guilty or innocent is not the point. None of the whites, hispanics, nor the asians cheered. Two people lost their life and people were cheering?!?!. Why was it only the blacks???
On to the so-called handcuffed victim that was shot by the police officer. The witness to this incident has changed her story a couple of times and has been difficult at best. Can she have a lawyer present? Of course she can, but why does she need one. Is she facing charges? No! It doesn't make sense. And what about the other witnesses that have backed the officers account. Why haven't we heard anything about them? Could it be b/c this doesn't sell in the media. Big, mean, redneck cops shooting innocent people on their way to church sells. Why doesn't the media give the whole story? It is an unfortunate incident any time someone loses their life. With that said, what could Mr. McIntosh have done differently? What is his prior record? Word on the street is that he had a pocket full of drugs. It seems that this wasn't his 1st encounter with police. And why doesn't Quanell X surround himself with educated, professional people. Is it because they analyze things and think things through. He surrounds himself with ex-con's who are used to be lead and told what to do and preys on the poor and uneducated as his audience. He gives them the small bits of information he wants to and that's all. Instead of being REACTIVE and protesting this and that, what has Quanell and his band of finger pointers done to be PROACTIVE. Has he gone into the community and told them 1) Don't commit crimes and/or 2) know how to act when approached by the police. No he hasn't.
TO THE PREVIOUS POSTER:
you wrote blacks side with blacks....true, it happens many times, but please don't pretend that white people always take the side of whites. that's why the district attorneys office for instance likes to stackk juries and grand juries with 'WHITES ONLY' so they can rubberstamp everything in favor of whites and against blacks.
There could me many reasons why she was not arrested on the spot. First of all, we dont know why she was arrested.
The "fabulous" new dispatch system goes down on a regular basis. Many times a day HPD does not get returns from TCIC/NCIC. It could have been that it was down at that time. If that was the case, a warrant or a canceled handgun permit would not have appeared. While her CHL card would show it was not canceled or expired, a computer return could have showed otherwise.
Had she known there was a problem, she could have went the next day to IAD in order to facilitate a retaliation complaint.
Once again, Isiah, are you going to follow up and post the resolution to this regardless of the outcome?
(Gladys used to call the police to complain that white folk were driving around the 4th ward buying dope and she wanted them arrested. Funny thing, they were buying dope from ehr relatives!!)
She was arrested for unlawfully carrying a weapon even though she had the permit on her person. She did go back after she got out of jail and filed a second retaliation complaint. There were no problems that delayed her being arrested on the spot according to HPD spokesperson John Cannon. So was it a coincidence that the officers waited the next day - just after House filed her first IA complaint- that the officers decided to seek a warrant for her arrest. Her concealed permit was called in by the officers and it was cleared on the scene according to HPD. And what does her relatives selling drugs (if it's true) have to do with her and this case? And yes there will be a follow up here on The Insite and tv.
I agree with Toni. There is more to this story. Why were the "jump out boys" following her in the first place? Where is the guy who warned Ms. House that she was being followed? I've driven that stretch of road where she was stopped many times and I don't know how she noticed another driver, who was on the phone presumbably talking to some other party, flagging her down to tell her "JOB" was following her. As a driver, you have to pay attention to people turning in the intersection of Dallas at Taft so that you won't get hit. You don't have time to look for other drivers who are trying to get you to pull over. If "JOB" knew that another motorist was trying to alert Ms. House, why didn't HPD pull that driver over too? I agree that the HPD retaliated against her complaint, but I want to know why they were following her in the first place.
Why did she complain initially about being pulled over by the way?
Just because HPD is not innocent does not mean Ms. House is innocent too.
Isiah, a person can be arrested for unlawfully carrying a weapon, even though they have a concealed handgun permit for many reasons. The news report states that the butt of the gun was sticking out from underneath a notebook in her car. Well that can be interpreted as a violation under: § 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN[0] BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun[0] on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun[0]. There are several other violations she could have been arrested for. I expected more from you than to take her word at face value and not explore other options. Could it be you immediately sided with her due to her race? I'm not saying she is guilty, but you and several others need to think outside of the box.
This "Blacks always side with Blacks" rings true to many, but those who have spoken out on behalf of Ms. House are not the same as those who spoke up for Jordy, who seemingly benefitted handsomly at the expense of taxpayers.
Many, if not most of the police officers have audio recorders, and record all contacts with suspects. If so, what happened to the tapes? Would any recording indicate Ms. House telling the truth, and is merely being set-up for a HPD lynching?
We have here a petite (somewhat feisty) woman being set upon by a gang of armed jack-booted police to serve a warrant along with over-whelming force (not unlike Waco) when she could have been quietly arrested, had there been a probable cause at the time.
I ask you, of the last twenty police shootings, how many officers were no-billed?
I also oppose the police being allowed to Taser victims repeatedly.
First off, under state law, you do not need a concealed carry permit to have a gun in your vehicle. The legislature clarified the "traveling" statute to mean anyone in their car, not otherwise committing a felony. And a traffic citation does not count. The DA Chuck Rosenthal refuses to acknowledge the clarification of the law. So having a weapon in her vehicle, even in plain sight, is not grounds for arrest. Period. End of that discussion. Chuck Rosenthal is encouraging the police to violate citizen's 2nd amendment right to be armed.
I am not black. I think Ms. House is being retaliated against. However, I too agree that there seems to more than meets the eye here. What reason would HPD have to accost her to begin with. Who exactly are these "jump out boys". What is their involvement? There are quite a few more questions that remain to be answered here.
All that said, to answer your question as to why blacks believe her and whites do not, generally speaking? well, a large amount of that can be attributed to people like Quannel the 10th who's entire purpose for being would appear to make his living off of racial tensions. were those tensions ever to fade, he'd have an awful hard time paying for that Hummer he drives. It is race baiting charlatans like Quannel that poison people's perception of "black activists" . When the black community distances itself from people like him, you might see a change in attitude.
Tom Bazan said
"Many, if not most of the police officers have audio recorders, and record all contacts with suspects. If so, what happened to the tapes? Would any recording indicate Ms. House telling the truth,... "
You know this how? HPD does not have recording devices in their car except for a very few. Maybe two or three per shift, and most of those dont work.
Isiah,
I have several observations about this story:
The fact that officers were able to see the concealed handgun in House’s car constituted a violation of the concealed handgun law. The concealed handgun law allows a person to carry a handgun if he or she is “traveling.” During the 2005 regular session, the Texas Legislature amended the law (HB 823) to state that a person is presumed to be traveling and is legally permitted to carry a handgun in his car or truck if he is (1) in a private motor vehicle, (2) not engaged in criminal activity, (3) not prohibited by law from possession a firearm, (4) not a member of a criminal street gang and (5) not carrying the handgun in plain view.
Isiah, you state that officers were able to see House’s handgun under a notepad, meaning she did not qualify for the traveling exemption under the law.
So based on the information you presented in your story, there were grounds for a charge of unlawfully carrying.
As to House’s statement that officers pointed guns at her head, that is very disturbing, and if HPD Internal Affairs Division confirms that officers pointed guns at House’s head, I suspect the officers who did that will face disciplinary action. There is no justification for an officer to pull his weapon and point it at an individual, unless the officers state that they believe House was going to engage in the use of deadly force against the officers. Having dealt with House numerous times over the years, I seriously doubt she would have done anything that would have made any reasonable officer feel she would use deadly force against an officer.
I suspect the officers pursued the criminal charge against her because she filed the internal affairs complaint. Proving that the officer’s were retaliating likely would be impossible to prove unless one of the officers wants to admit to that. And we all know that’s not going to happen.
As to your story, you should have stated the race of the officers to give viewers some perspective, since the story raised race as an issue.
When you revisit this story, I also hope you make clear to your many viewers that having a concealed handgun permit does not permit a holder to have the weapon in plain view in his or her car. Put the weapon in the truck while driving.
HB 823:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Search/DocViewer.aspx?K2DocKey=odbc%3a%2f%2fTLO%2fTLO.dbo.vwArchBillDocs%2f79%2fR%2fH%2fB%2f00823%2f5%2fB%40TloArchBillDocs&QueryText=hb+823&HighlightType=1
About the last post. I meant put the weapon in the trunk, not the truck.
"We have here a petite (somewhat feisty) woman being set upon by a gang of armed jack-booted police to serve a warrant along with over-whelming force (not unlike Waco) when she could have been quietly arrested, had there been a probable cause at the time."
There is a reason for the use of "over-whelming" force....the alleged criminal(s) will be less likely to attempt aggressive behavior when confronted by over-whelming force. "Waco"?? what moron would even contemplate that this incident was the same as Waco..?? and don't forget,if those at Waco had surrendered the illegal weapons they had stock piled,non of what happened would have taken place.
"I ask you, of the last twenty police shootings, how many officers were no-billed?"
Perhaps there is a reason for this? Or should we go ahead a charge a couple of officers just the keep the numbers more acceptable??? Perhaps if less people gave them reason to shoot there would be less death.
"I also oppose the police being allowed to Taser victims repeatedly."
Great idea...Taser once and if the criminal continues to attack..let him them hit you. Good idea....
Mr.Carey...the racial lines question was answered..along racial lines.
Mr. Carey I think that you have stumbled on to something more important than the original story.
The majority of the posters in the comment section can't spell.
Since you have designated yourself as the grammar/spelling police, shouldn't there be a comma after "Mr. Carey"? Hmmmmmmmmm
We have seen the IAD report and the warrant. The sequence of paperwork clearly shows that the warrant was filed after the intial contact with Gladys House and one day after the IAD complaint.
The criminal justice system is designed to protect the person and property of those in power. The policeman, no matter their color, have replaced the overseer on the plantation.
Those in power in Houston are primarily white, upper middle class, property owners. Most have no idea or don't care about the abuses of power that take place in the criminal justice system against poor people of color and youth in their names.
Nothing excuses breaking the law; but it is unfortunate that the harshest sentences for the same crimes go to people of color who are poor. Forget the name, shame and blame game - deal with the facts.
If this city of ours is to ever live up to its true potential, we must confront the disporportionate number of Black children in CPS custody, juvenile justice, special education, criminal justice and homeless.
This is why Blacks will not march on HPD headquarters or the courthouse for the forseeable future. The next series of protests will be held in River Oaks, Memorial, The Galleria, Meyerland and the Greater Houston Partnership.
Until the power elite in this city understand that we have now reached what Malcolm Gladwell termed "The Tipping Point" their less well to do brothers and sisters will continue to live and blog in total denial of racial injustice.
Play time is over. No more business as usual. No more plantation politics. Either all will enjoy the great opportunities of this city or nobody will have any peace. The point is - police misconduct, selective prosecution, and racial injustice is bad for business in this city.
It is up to ALL working class people and communities of color, which are the true majority in this city, to unite and assert themselves.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote: "Power is not the white man's birthright; it (power) will not be legislated for us (Blacks) and delivered in neat government packages. It is a social force any group can utilize by accumulating its elements in a planned, deliberate campaign to organize it under its own control."
Minister Robert Muhammad
Thank you for your comments Muhammed, now please go straightn your bow tie so you will look nice in the good part of town, you know the part where successful people live?
Give us a break!
The son is the most notoriou drug dealer in the Fourth Ward and is located on Andrews Street in one of her properties. She is fully aware of exactly what's going on.
As for whether she lied about the incident, let's suffice it to say, she is not the most honest person and will create quite a spin along with a great deal of havoc to get her way. Make no mistake, you're dealing with a pro when it comes to portraying a very distorted picture of what the truth really is! And the race card, it's her best and unfortunately, her constant weapon.
Fact or fiction.....we may never know. Would love it if the city would take the distribution of drugs being sold by her son and family at large seriously. One thing is for sure, she is not welcome by many in the Fourth Ward because of her lies and the sale of drugs from her property. Perhaps she should clean up her persona, her house and her drug riddled family and move on to another state! Fox news should spend a day in the Fourth Ward, you'd get an ear full.
it is a sad, sad day when we have to ponder about this kind of stuff.
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